Posts by Bubblegum Apotheosis

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Belief in God's mercy leads to----what? Higher Crime Rates??

by Terry in

higher crime rates?.

dr. azim shariff & university of oregon release crime & religion study.

can we blame gods mercy for higher crime rates?

Bubblegum Apotheosis

. Let's take a walk through Pakistan which is one of the most violent countries in the world. If you ask the average Pakistani if he believes in Allah, they will say "Yes". Do you believe that one of Allah's attributes are he is full of mercies? Yes! Do you believe in Hell-fire? Yes!

Islamic scholars, the Quran promote the belief Allah is full of mercy, but he is not afraid to send the evil one to Hell. Why is there so much violence in these countries who believe in a God who will bring evil actions to a endless punishment? Dr. Azim sums it up with his own word. "Speculation". The ability to handle the size of his "sample", and undertaking is quite large indeed.

Nietzche said when we finally killed God, "Lanterns will have to be lit in the morning hours and sacred games invented to take of religious ceremony. A universal madness would break out when the truth of what mankind had done in killing God dawned on us".

Dr. Azim " Belief in a benevolent, forgiving god could license people to think they can get away with things," Shariff explains, but he cautions that this speculation is preliminary and that causation hasn't yet been proven between religious beliefs and crime rates."

How will Dr. Azim elaborates with facts, how a naturalistic, Nihilistic view of the Universe, makes a person less prone to steal, rape or kill a person and what he basis this on.

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Belief in God's mercy leads to----what? Higher Crime Rates??

by Terry in

higher crime rates?.

dr. azim shariff & university of oregon release crime & religion study.

can we blame gods mercy for higher crime rates?

Bubblegum Apotheosis

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Why do only xian religions have soo many pedo problems ?

by mP in

im not trying to poke fun at any particular religion or show favouritism, but im having a hard time recalling similar repeated scandals in non xian religions.

i cant recall hearing of pedo scandals in islam or buddism.

yes i know that islam perpetrates many other evils like so call honour killings but buddhism seems to be rarely in the news for similar evils ?

Bubblegum Apotheosis

Thank you Randy!

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The hypocrisy of child abuse in many Muslim countries

by Bubblegum Apotheosis in

we can develop our knowledge of the cultures we are not so sure of.

this thread will lead down the practices islamic countries and how they sex offfense are dealt with, if they are investigated at all.

raping a christian women is not a death penalty punishment, if he is a muslim man.on the contrary, the raping of a muslim woman by a christian man is a "death penalty" offense.

Bubblegum Apotheosis

http://www.mypracticalphilosophy.com/jihadpages/women.htm

The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property,
either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery
until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.
Sir Winston Churchill, The River War, Vol. II, pp. 248-50, London: Longman, Green & Co., 1899)

A woman is nothing but a shame
Her husband will cover up 1/10th of her shame and her grave will cover up the rest of it.
Muhammad

A woman's paradise is under her husband's foot.
Hadith

It's inconvenient to not be able to attack the Xian World view without another preceived better one, "Islam" as some as spoken more favorable will bring more disappointments when you finally discover what Churchill spoke of. Churchills concept the "appeaser". is akin to " A person who feeds a crocodile other people, in hopes it eat him last."

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Why do only xian religions have soo many pedo problems ?

by mP in

im not trying to poke fun at any particular religion or show favouritism, but im having a hard time recalling similar repeated scandals in non xian religions.

i cant recall hearing of pedo scandals in islam or buddism.

yes i know that islam perpetrates many other evils like so call honour killings but buddhism seems to be rarely in the news for similar evils ?

Bubblegum Apotheosis

@Mp, thank you for your honesty on this issue, you admitt you don't have all the facts. It's hard to compare to different moral world views or frame works. The ability for victims to receive justice in this parts of the world, is not very common. How can we develop any point of referrence with religions and practioners who don't obey the commandments of their founders?

Thailand, how do we develop or put our morals into this Sex Tourist country? Missionaries have been trying to help the children, children whose parents who sold them to brothels! I can't even comprehend this kind of conduct, maybe because I don't live in the deep extreme poverty, or come from their culture? When the Xian missions try to help, failure happens too often. The money from the "Falangs" (Malay term for non-malay old man looking for sex) is to great at times to walk away. Thailand has many temples and the culture is more secular than traditional Buddism, I can't see the Buddha who fought against injustice, justifying the dead end life many of the sex workers live.

I asked one of my Iranian friends about the abuse of the Filipino and Chinese immigrants to Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, U.A.E., "it's a completly different view on sex and ownership of the human being" Not everyone is as open as this man, but he is a radical activist in his own way. He supports groups that try to abolish the Sex Trafficking Trade, he is a Muslim and a very progressive man. I enjoy his company and his liberal views on different subjects.

@Poopsie, you are so correct!

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The hypocrisy of child abuse in many Muslim countries

by Bubblegum Apotheosis in

we can develop our knowledge of the cultures we are not so sure of.

this thread will lead down the practices islamic countries and how they sex offfense are dealt with, if they are investigated at all.

raping a christian women is not a death penalty punishment, if he is a muslim man.on the contrary, the raping of a muslim woman by a christian man is a "death penalty" offense.

Bubblegum Apotheosis

We can develop our knowledge of the cultures we are not so sure of. This thread will lead down the practices Islamic countries and how they sex offfense are dealt with, if they are investigated at all. Raping a Christian women is not a death penalty punishment, if he is a Muslim man.On the contrary, the raping of a Muslim woman by a Christian man is a "Death Penalty" offense. Look it up, it is, what it is!

Why the harsh contrast, long held tradition places the Muslim as a higher being than a Christian, Jew (Pagan was to convert to Islam or die!). Mohammed wrote glowingly of "People of the Book", this has been replaced by new thinking from Islamic thinkers who corrupted the Prophet's teachings.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/apr/25/middle-east-child-abuse-pederasty

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/dancingboys/

"The moral hypocrisy is outrageous in a country where homosexuality is not only strictly forbidden but savagely punished, even between two consenting adults. However, men who sodomise young boys are not considered homosexuals or paedophiles. The love of young boys is not a phenomenon restricted to Afghanistan; homosexual pederasty is common in neighbouring Pakistan, too. In my view, repression of sexuality and extreme gender apartheid is to blame.

And in the Middle East, it's young girls who are considered desirable and men are able to satisfy their lusts legally through child marriages. In Yemen, more than a quarter of girls are married before the age of 15. Cases of girls dying during childbirth are not unusual, and recently, one 12-year-old child bride even died from internal bleeding following sexual intercourse. In another case, a 12-year-old girl was married to an 80-year-old man in Saudi Arabia.

So why is the practice of child marriage sanctioned in Muslim countries? Unfortunately, ultra-conservative religious authorities justify this old tribal custom by citing the prophet Muhammad's marriage to Aisha. They allege Aisha was nine years old when the prophet married her. But they focus conveniently on selected Islamic texts to support their opinions, while ignoring vast number of other texts and historical information, which suggests Aisha was much older, putting her age of marriage at 19. Child marriage is against Islam as the Qur'an is clear that intellectual maturity is the basis for deciding age of marriage, and not puberty, as suggested by these clerics."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/apr/25/middle-east-child-abuse-pederasty Read the whole article!

http://www.mypracticalphilosophy.com/jihadpages/women.htm

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Rick Fearon's interview with attorney Rick Simons and Barbara Anderson is now up on 6 Screens

by ScenicViewer in

follow this link, scroll down to entry dated 6-16-2012.. http://www.sixscreensofthewatchtower.com/telenetwork/six-screens.php.

edit: warning, you will have to listen to several minutes of music before rick starts talking.. edit 2: this is a 5 hour program.

a progress bar will appear the allows you to fast forward, but it took many minutes for it to load on my computer.

Bubblegum Apotheosis

Did Candice's attorney say what the most damning evidence was, the closed holes the maggots were unable to wiggle through? God Bless You Candice and Thank You Rick for the interview!

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"NEW LIGHT" FROM BROTHER WALDO D/O SANTA MARIA ,CALIFORNIA 1/22/2012 "HOW JEHOVAH IS LIKE BROTHERS ACCUSED OF BEING A CHILD MOLESTER!

by Bubblegum Apotheosis in

i was shocked to hear how the slander against jehovah's name that we see in the world can be compared to a good man accused of being a child molester.

he went on to describe how terrible such an accusation would be, and how "friends" of the accused would know he's not capable of such an act and would rally to his defense.

at several points in the talk, he refers back to the child molester "example" and how eventually, despite the hideous slander heaped on a man in this situation (depicting jehovah in the bigger picture, we assume), that man's good reputation would be restored.

Bubblegum Apotheosis

Brother Waldo is not happy this weekend, I am not sad, but feel exhonerated on behalf of the many silent victims who are afraid to come forward. Jehovah is punishing the Watchtower Society for "Pride" and Hipocrisy", this month's magazine mentions the clergy with their sex scandal, is this ironic or not?

"The only thing worse than a liar is a liar that's also a hypocrite!"
Tennessee William

Sincerity makes the very least person to be of more value than the most talented hypocrite."
Charles Spurgeon

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What is with abusive atheists?

by Fernando in

jw
friends

sorry folks, i know the "candace conti case" is where all our time attention should be for now.

i just had this much less important issue on my heart and wanted to make a quick note of it, as i am struggling with remembering all the details as clearly afterward.. although i am a non-religious believer and simple follower of jesus, i have had some constructive interaction with atheists and agnostics on jwn.

i do enjoy learning more about their perspective.

Bubblegum Apotheosis

Fernando, we can have our own threads, let them have their threads. Start a thread adn we can talk about this, we don't need a conflagaration with hurt feelings. Paz a ud!

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Will the Society Publish and Repent?

by unclebruce in

jw
friends

be nice if the court order included full disclosure via the watchtower magzine.. .

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Bubblegum Apotheosis

CANDANCE IS NOT AN APOSTATE! SHE IS A BOLD WOMAN THAT HAS MADE A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN THE ORGANIZATION! HER LAWSUIT AND HER OWN VINDICATION YELL'S, THE WATCHTOWER HAS BEEN FOUND "WANTING AND LACKING" FOR EVERYONE WHO DECIDES TO REMAIN IN!

The Apostates are the Hopni and Phineas type men who hid pedophiles from the congregation as a whole. Jehovah has judged the Watchtower Society and found their Pedophile Parachuete Packages full of gaping holes. Candance has brought in new light to some old dim witted men.